Kratom Abstinence
Interviewing people in recovery from kratom abuse or addiction, or experts in the field.
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2 days ago
2 days ago
Are you more attuned to your senses after kratom cessation? Scott started off on powder ten years ago and began using extracts in more recent years. After many quit attempts, and his drug use escalating to poly-substance binges, Scott hit a bottom at an ER visit after using meth. A foreign trip to an overseas city was how he was able to stop consuming kratom in the fall of 2024.
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5 days ago
5 days ago
Defining what sober is for yourself, based on your improved quality of life, not by what you are abstinent from. Kendall is a middle school teacher who was previous addicted to tramadol. He first developed a bad habit with extract capsules, which he quit, then relapsed taking the kava-kratom tonics. Kendall is an example that not every case of disordered kratom use is severe, and not every relapse results into a spiraling decent into oblivion. But kratom has abuse potential and is not for everyone, especially if you are hiding it from a loved one such as a spouse, and you are lying about and overspending on your kratom consumption.
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Wednesday Mar 19, 2025
Wednesday Mar 19, 2025
Nolan and Desiree talk about the benefits of having more money to spend after quitting kratom. Author Jonathan N. Stea, PhD discusses his book "Mind the Science" and shares strategies to navigate the complexities of the alternative health sector. He shares his clinical experience treating kratom use disorder, addresses common tropes and fallacies found in certain industries like kratom, and explores the parallels of kratom with cannabis as both are marketed as natural plant medicines.
Kratom (Mitragynine) Ingestion Requiring Naloxone Reversal - PMC
Overbeek, D. L., Abraham, J., & Munzer, B. W. (2019). Kratom (Mitragynine) Ingestion Requiring Naloxone Reversal. Clinical practice and cases in emergency medicine, 3(1), 24–26. https://doi.org/10.5811/cpcem.2018.11.40588
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Sunday Mar 16, 2025
Sunday Mar 16, 2025
How to cope when life keeps on "life-ing". Jahred hails from Hawaii, where he quit a 7-year addiction to powder (his first five or so years) and then at the end, mixing in extracts. With the help of a significant other, he tapered from June 2024 from about 42 grams per day to about 8 grams per day, when he jumped off cold turkey - aided by several comfort prescriptions from his doctor.
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Wednesday Mar 12, 2025
Wednesday Mar 12, 2025
Nolan and Desiree talk about their personal timelines feeling better after quitting kratom. Mark is an expat from Europe living in Thailand as a digital nomad. He was surprised by how an unassuming kratom tea product he bought created a physical dependency and he had a hard time quitting during 2024. English is not his native language, but his story gives us insight how kratom is used by non-Americans in places outside of United States.
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Sunday Mar 09, 2025
Sunday Mar 09, 2025
Libby and Jacob talk about recognizing you have an addiction without or before bad things start to happen. Ian works for a well-known company that distributes kratom-kava drinks to some 30,000 stores in the U.S. Many people report this product to be starkly more addictive than plain leaf kratom, and Ian himself has developed a dependency he has had trouble stopping. He talks to Charlie about:
* The misleading promotion of the product as an energy drink.
* The measures the company uses to counter the concerns of cautious new retail outlets worried about the negative reports associated with the product.
* The typical store has a handful of the same customers drinking large volumes of the product, e.g. an average of 12 customers per every 100 units moved.
* The company's practice of giving six samples per store to the distributor allows Ian to afford his addiction.
* Severe cases of addiction among customers that Ian has encountered during his work, and that other people working for the company in his role are also experiencing difficult, hard-to-quit dependencies on the product they are helping to distribute.
* The company-wide denial about the addictive potential of the product.
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Wednesday Mar 05, 2025
Wednesday Mar 05, 2025
Nolan and Desiree talk about how nice it is not to have to hide your kratom use after you quit. Aaron discusses how his kratom addiction progressed over five years until he was able to stop in early December 2023. He "hugged the cactus", and quit with the help of the podcast, online kratom meetings and quitting support groups.
How would you describe your life now that you're freedom free?
"Oh, that's a good question. It's a complicated question. I'll try to keep it short. I think that it's more honest and I think it's more sincere, and I think that it's sometimes harder, but I think that overall it's easier and better and more fulfilling and more rewarding, and I've had to face uncomfortable truths about myself. My history and reflecting on my past. ...This whole feeling of I don't deserve to be here, I don't belong, whatever...Ridiculous thoughts are things that I press down with substances and now the journey is I can actually work through this. And that's been for me, this journey of, now that I'm off of it, I think it's like a car, like all my trauma was like a car...Like you gotta take the car in to get serviced. And I wasn't servicing the car and so the car was getting fucked up...So that was the process and that's been, but I've had to go through and work through now, but it's also very empowering and healing."
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Sunday Mar 02, 2025
Sunday Mar 02, 2025
Today's guest Anthony is a high school student. In the open, Jacob and Libby discuss how they felt at key milestone day marks during the first year. Initially consuming kratom around age 15, Anthony first bottomed out on powder and then on kava-kratom tonics, eventually going to rehab. Relapse is part of his story, but he experienced a lot in his journey for such a young man. Listen to hear what he has to say.
THANK YOU TO OUR GUESTS WHO SENT IN FEEDBACK ON LOW/HIGH DOSES:
Response 1 - J
"I guess when I was first getting started with kratom, 3 or so grams was more stimulating and then 6+ were sedating, but by the time I got heavy into my addiction I just felt like crap all the time anyway?" Also J found this scientific article:
Babu KM, McCurdy CR, Boyer EW (2008) Opioid receptors and legal highs: Salvia divinorum and Kratom. Clin Toxicol (Phila) 46(2):146–152. "The clinical effects of Kratom are dose-dependent; consistent descriptions exist of stimulant effects at lower doses, and opiate effects predominating at higher doses in humans (33,34). This effect has also been witnessed in animal models (47)."
Response 2 - A
I used once a day ranging from 5gpd to 15gpd in leaf form. I would say that range is exactly the difference between stimulating and sedative. I would start my use at 5gpd for a bit of a buzz and help cleaning the house. As my use increased due to tolerance it would get more and more sedative until the 15gpd point where it would be almost all sedative and not stimulating at all. Your podcast helps me tremendously along with the kratom quitters group. My story is very mundane, low usage, no crazy rock bottoms or interesting quit strategies, but it has been a struggle and a long one at that.
Response 3 - M
When I found kratom in the vape shops they told me that the white was stimulating, the red was sedating, and the green was somewhere In The middle. Additionally, I liked what Jacob said about mindset playing a bearing on the effectiveness of the substance. I love the podcast. I just got through my first day out of detox.
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Wednesday Feb 26, 2025
Wednesday Feb 26, 2025
International travel and kratom. Tony has battled kratom extract dependence over the years with multiple relapses and is determined to make this his final quit. With no prior history of addiction, a pivotal moment came during a trip abroad, where unplanned withdrawals caused a strain on his relationship with his wife and the moment became an important turning point.
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Sunday Feb 23, 2025
Sunday Feb 23, 2025
So listeners, tell us your experience, did you find kratom stimulating at low doses and sedating at higher doses? We will read audience responses on a future episode. And as an incentive, the podcast will donate $20 to the non-political charity of your choice, so think children, pets, nature, wildlife, addiction, etc. those types of nonprofits. This also serves as an experiment, meaning, DOES ANYONE READ THE SHOW NOTES? If yes, please send to kratomsobriety@gmail.com about your dose dependent experience with kratom being stimulating versus sedating.
While studying to become a peer recovery specialist substance abuse, Justin K. started to use kratom. His use progressed over time, and he started to consume 7ohm tablets. Eventually, he starts spending $200 or more a day. He decided to go to the hospital to detox and worked with his doctor to be treated with Medications for Opioid Use Discord (MOUD). Alongside support groups and therapy, Justin has been off kratom since November 13, 2024.
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